Your hysterical, panicky, angry flight from it speaks tons about your character (or lack of) . . . and I'll bet you, in denial of your own FLAGRANT dishoneasty, batter the hell out of Clinton for lying to the American people. "Right"? Well, just what the hell do you think YOU are doing on your website? Lying to the American people, that's what.

BTW, if you think you are are coming from a Christian perspective with your blatant lies, half-truths, and unexamined and immutable misconceptions about abortion, you really should consider that commandment about bearing false witness.

Ken and Shane aren't exactly right -- you're not ugly. You just have a fat, black, ugly heart. I vote you kill yourself and put yourself out of your misery. Been a long time, Carolyn -- hope all's well!

Tolerant Tony sent me also mail a while ago. If these people hate me so much, why do they continue to visit my page?

Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 18:58:24 -0700
From: DFDFD enGHJ@ix.nDGD.com
Subject: Dont screw up my kids vacation

Im taking my children to Disney lan. To be children and have fun. I am anti abortion and personally I dont care if people are gay. Dont screw up my kids day for you own self serving political agenda. Cant you find a better place thna Disneyland. Is it your intent to make the Magic Kingdom the Political Kingdom. I wnat my children to have fun. Not see a bunch of extremeist from either side slug it out and act like idiots, messing up the DREAMS AND FUN OF CHILDREN.

You say you are so concerned about life and children, yet you would go aheead and ruin the dream vacation for children and families for you own poliica agenda. You are sick sick strange people. Dont call the other side sick and strange when you youself resort to such tactics that will ruin other innocent CHILDRENS vacation.

You lose my respect. my support. You are nothing better than a bunch of terroists. Go anywhere but leave my children alone at Disney land and dont ruin their vacation. You will kill you cause and your integrity Grow up, let the children be children and have their vacation.

Just to give you bad publicity I am going to send this to CNN's site and everyone else I can find.

Got to Disneyland and have fun. don't go there to be in the news and teach my children a lesson about crazy possed people, who care nothing about children.

A regular family who doesn't care about your hatred and contempt for my children.

Basically people who are pro-lifers should not become pharmacists esp. if they are going to refuse to fill prescriptions. More than that they should be outlawed and should be decriminated against by any potential employer. I feel they are too much of a risk. One cannot determine the extent of their strange belief nor whether they might not be a mad dog and put poison in the pills of anti-borters and cause death, lawsuits, etc. Some of the pro-life groups have threatened to bomb pharmacies if RU486. abwaugh@sirius.com

More from Art..
If pro-lifers want a pro-life country I think it would be better to (l) deport them (2) let them leave (3) gas them. (gr) Doctors and nurses who refuse to particpate in an abortion should be have the their license suspended permanently.

..and even *more* from Art..
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 11:30:23 -0700
From: Arthur Waugh abwaugh@sirius.com
To: "Karen L. Brauer" kbrauer@seidata.com
Subject: Re: Pharmacist..pro-life

In response to the above, Karen wrote "Very interesting. Do you mind if I publish your opinions where medical professionals can see them??? KB"
Art's response:
Not really. I am quite sincere about my feeling (oh I would relent on the gas-ing) >The climate of fear that pro-lifers are seeking to establish is despicable, There s no reason RU486 should have to be so clandestinely dealt with. I would genuinely fear a John Salvi type might work in a pharmacy. I also have some misgivings about pro-lifers in general. I feel pro-lifers have a screw loose somewhere. They might even be a little stupid. If they are a little stupid I wouldn't want them working in certain critical jobs like teaching school, being my doctor or pharmacists, a public or school librarian,..they might be too censorious, make mistakes, or try to proselyte. If they are religious they are even more dangerous since one cannot distinguish between Nazis like Pat Robertson, Beverly La Haye, Frank Dobson, Donald Wlldmon and moderate normal Christians. They might be incompetant like Mother Teresa who killed thousands because she wouldn't sterlize her needles in her so-called hospitals. One must also think of the possible future. If Roe-Wade were overturned, would pro-life doctors and nurses fail to help women who have injured themselves in a self-induced abortion. There is even the possibiliy that such women would be tried for murder as in Nepal today where even miscarriages are examined very closely and women can be tried for murder if there is anything suspicious. Surely pills and hospitals are far safer, more Christian and humane than falling down stairs, unreliable herbal preparations. geting their boyfriend to kick them in the stomach, having the baby and throwing it (whee!) in a dumptster, flyng out of the country, and all those other ways used thru the centuries.

That was the funniest web page I ever read. You really are an idiot and its even funnier that you don't relize it. You make up the 75% of the US population that just follows what everyone else says. You should try thinking for yourself sometime.

You are an uninformed cunt.

One look at Paula Jones is enough to make anyone puke, she looks like a anteater. Come on I think this guy could do better than that. I mean being a independent now, I can see that the Democrats are not perfect, but the anteater, I guess someone who supports Newt who cheated on his Wife while she was going through breast cancer surgery, you have a perfect right to downgrade Clinton and a very good Republican Tom Campbell, and all Republicans and Democrats that voted to fine this stupid Jack Ass.

Your opinions on the Abortion, Pro Choice issues, are laughable, you say your on the women's side, my ass. I for one am not into getting involved in other peoples business, that means I will never stand outside an abortion clinic, or tell a women what is right for her body. That is her choice!!!, as it is yours, in other words you might want mind your own business, it is free country, that is until Swastika Boy gets his hands on it.

It's people like Gingrich, Limbaugh the Big Fat Stupid Idiot, Swastika boy Buchanan, the stupid right to lifer's (that like to butt there noses into everyone's business) that will bring the Republicans down.

conservative sucks ... get a life!

Hi it's Madonna again! Yes I'm a Clinton supporter, but get this; a registered,Republican,Clinton supporter!!! Oh my god! Thanks for the "smartass" reply, that's all I was hoping for. This whole Paula thing is a joke, just as her face is. If you call that elequent, obviously your standards ARE lower than I thought just in supporting poor Paula. My only regret is in knowing Paula will probably never see what true, honest, hard WORKING(hint) Americans with lives of their own really think of her. You also come across like a prude with your comments to others that don't agree with your point of view. But it is YOUR page and I do respect that. Just get a sense of humor and loose what you think is funny in your replies to others. P.S. I hope I'm put on the "negative" page so everyone who reads it will know some of us "Clinton Supporters" know how to spell and use proper English. If I didn't get a smile out of you on that point you are a prude.
Madonna glhammer@hotmail.com

In her effort to show off her excellent spelling skills, this woman didn't seem to notice that she spelled "eloquent" incorrectly and used the word "loose" in place of the intended word "lose."

Is your name spelled "Gargoyle"? Better check the spelling I think you've got it wrong wench.

I can't spell. Sorry.

Carolyn,
You were dropped on your head at an early age, right?

No, I was dropped on my left toe.

What makes you so "elegant"?

My nose.

Certainly not your politics, self perceived intelligence or physical appearance! Please enjoy a different perspective (if your narrow little mind

So you admit that I have a mind.

will allow this phenomena to take place!)

If it does, I won't tell you. It will be my little secret.

Sincerely,

R.D. Stillabower

Dear Madam:
Do you indeed have an advanced degree in the mental health sciences that you are able to diagnose the motivation of others?

No, just Public Relations and Management Information Systems. I am working on my PHD in Advanced E-mail Management.

My guess would be that you are on approximately the same educational level as Mr.Limbaugh,who engages

My IQ is 22.

in the same type of mental tomfoolery.It doesnt speak very well for the intelligence of the american people.Ignorance confers no benefits!

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you just wrote. It's too advanced for me.

Some people get so caught up in there own shallow lives they get off trying to impress others with there views as if they really mattered.putting all your lame personal information on the web for all to see gags me.one day maybe you will get a life.As for Paula Jones,she's ought to be the poster child for the abortion rights movement. Less losers like her and yourself sure would makelife in this country a little brighter. If Paula Jones gets any cash out of oldBilly Bob maybe she could ge a face lift. GET A LIFE!!!!!

YOU SHOULD MOVE TO RUSSIA WITH ALL THE OTHER COMMUNISTS,ABORTION RULES!

Man, what a disgusting photo. You must have sex with animals!

Don't tell me someone is circulating my Weight Watchers "before" picture around the 'Net? :-)

>> abortion all the way

to which I responded:

>Wow - what an intelligent comment

and then I received this:

I thought It was quite an intelligent comment, Thanks.
I hate you.
I bet you go to a megachurch.
Are you a republican?
you say yes??
That's what I thought
you suck

How does one respond to such wit? ;-)

You are an ignorant dumb republican! You have committed infinite sins and everyone has and will deem you stupid!!!!!!!!!

Abortion should be legal in all cercumstances. It is ignorante and wrong to make it illigel. Women will be forced to get un-safe illigal abortions because of people like you. You think that people are indagering the baby but by making it illigal your indagering even more lives that already exist. You and everyone like you make me sick!

A multicultural society is a tolerant society not a close minded one like you apparently are encouraging.

Now, I know this isn't really "hate" mail, but I just found it a bit amusing. First, I don't really mention multiculturalism on my web site. Secondly, I work for a social service agency run by an American Indian tribe. Yeah, I've worked for the Powhatan Renape Nation since 1993 because I am so against multiculturalism.

at rednecks and your jaded,right wing crappy,and unhappy genx stupid view on evrything

I guess this guy was upset because I stopped answering the other emails he sent, like this one (below):

Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 22:04:44 -0400
From: John Dagenbach JDagenbach@webtv.net
Subject: you baby.

i read about you and with all of your book learning, frankly im not impressed. i am a liberal democrat politically, but still have conservative values. you may make more money than me but my lifestyle is way cooler. i cleaned a doctor's office, now we are boyfriend and girlfriend. my mom always says underconfident people always need to show off. even with alll of your phoney flash your still justanother bon jovi loving big haired new jersy girl. if you want a real stud, however write me back and if youre good I'll mail you a cuurent picture of me. cause i have to admit, for a republican, your no barbera bush, and belive me I 'm straight and more girls like me than Bon Jovi.

????

All I have to say to you is that you are obviously an ignorant, intolerant (yes, intolerant, which you have demonstrated through your narrow-minded views), and hypocrytical asshole. I don't care what you think of me. I don't attempt to force my views on others, unlike you assinine christian pro-lifers. Your opinions are just that-your opinions-not the TRUTH. Why don't you keep those opinions to yourself and leave good people to live their lives the way they choose? No one wants to hear your lunatic ravings.

Maybe I should take Into to Tolerance with Peg.

carolyn i got home from work early today and read some of your rantings in here man, you really do need to get a life! you perseverated for pages about your mother's editorial to courier-post defending the fat man. sheesh you must not have enough work to keep you busy. paula jones is slime and you people defending her have no clue.

You and your buddies in the faaar right are of course: rednecks, hillbillies, bible thumpers, ner-do-wellers, potlickers, ditto-holes, no brainers,religionazis, ordinary nazis, children of cousins who married, people whos mothers should have been pro-choice, degenerates, nipple biters, anal retentive, pustule suckers, and the just plain ugly.

This man must be very bored. If you continue reading, you'll see he has written before.

Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 00:07:54 -0700
From: Arthur Waugh abwaugh@sirius.com
Subject: Mother T

I'm delighted the old bag is dead. Princess D is wonderful. Ma T was a monster. Selfish, stupid and a thief. The blood of many babies is on her hands posioned bydirty needles. She stole money and probably financed the bombing of abortion clinic. People dying of AIDs were not evne allowed to watch TV. May she be forgotten soon, Her grave should be a urinal for dogs. Arthru B waugh

It was all a plot for you to read my ideas!!!!
GET THE SILVER SPOON OUT OF YOU MOUTH!!
You people are heartless and you don't even know it! Thats how ignorant you conservatives are.

A little explanation - this is a liberal who tried to sneak onto the Conservative Web Ring that I manage. I received this message when I would not allow him on the ring. My silver spoon is currently in the dishwasher.

TO BAD YOUR WRONG ON THIS ISSUE MOST PEOPLE WANT ABORTION KEPT LEGAL. EVERY TIME A DR. OR CLINIC WORKER IS SHOT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC SEES WHAT YOU AND YOUR RELIGIONAZI FRIENDS ARE ALL ABOUT THEY KNOW THAT YOUR ALL LOONIETOONS

Hmm...he must have misread my statistics, and not bothered to read "Stop the Violence."

I'd like to see the death penalty for people who think they have the right to put a human in jail for ingesting a given substance, some of which (ie, marijuana) are safer than eating pig.

I'd like to take your views on abortion, your goofy flag, and your evil Christian god and cram 'em up your stupid, intolerant ass.

Tony

This man calls me intolerant, and then says he'd like to cram things up my ass. Sorry Tony, I'm not into that.

Spoken out against violence. Coming from you nuts, that's just lip-service. Any one of you fanatics is capable of those deeds at any time (bombing and killing doctors). It's the crux of your cause (your opinions on abortion and freedom of choice) that spawn these terrorist attacks, not solely the people who follow them. Spare us your lies!

I could take your right wing fascist ravings more seriously if you learned how to spell.

Dana
This e-mail was sent to me via my Al Gore page, where all I do is document what he himself said. *That* is right wing fascist ravings?

My Name is Kristin, and I just have to say that I really dislike you prolifers, because you are so oblivious to the feelings of others. You go out and picket and scream at defenseless women who are exercising their right to have an abortion. You are sick the things you and your people do, you may disagree with it, as you so eloquently put it. But the bottom line here is that they are prolifers, like yourself and that's all that needs to be said. Prolifers like yourself are insensitive bastards who pray on weak and hurting women with your words and violent actions. If you have ever seen the movie If these Walls Could Talk, you would know what I am talking about. It enraged me and I had to write one of you and tell you that you should think about what you are doing saying and telling people. You have an opinion good for you, why don't you just keep it to yourself next time and save people some pain and sufferring. If you have any rebuttal or anything email me

Oh...I can have an opinion but I cannot express it. Thanks Kristin, I'll remember that.

You might recall that a few months ago I wrote you a piece of "hate" mail detailing my desire to become an abortion provider, in response to your extremist antichoice views. I don't believe in leaving on a cliffhanger, so I thought I would update you on my quest. Though I have not fulfilled my goal of performing late term abortions on demand and offering incentives for women to do so, I have since set more realistic and achievable goals in its place. Two days of every week, I volunteer my time and services to a local area abortion clinic in an administrative position, as well as coordinating appointments and at times escorting women inside who are terrified by the antichoice crosshugger movement. As of yet I have only had two clashes with your kind, as the clinic in my area may only get protestors a few times a year.

In my last message to you I discussed the power of spite. Recently as I was channel surfing, I came across Pat Robertson hosting his $19.95 Club (cult) and much as he always does he was discussing the "horrors of abortion." In his words, the mythical Satan was behind it trying to "snuff out the child who will be the second coming of Christ." Now being an atheist, a nihilist, a humanist what-have-you, I unlike Christians use common sense and logic instead of relying on the church industry to program my thoughts. So I of course know that Jesus, if he even existed at all, was certainly not the son of a god that does not exist. He was either insane or mislead by a mother who lied to him to cover up her own promiscuity. But keeping with my belief in the power of spite, I have decided that the goal of my helping out my local area abortion provider should be to help in the woman who would be carrying the second coming of Christ (Christ v2.0) so that I might be one who helps abort Jesus. Now of course I know better. There is no such fetus nor will there ever be as there is no god, but that doesn't matter with spite. The knowledge alone that I do it with the hope of assisting in the termination of that one fetus is enough to satisfy my craving. :)

Until next time. If I manage to terminate Jesus in his fetal form, I will party first and inform you afterwards. One must have priorities. Luv ya'. :)

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Creative, isn't he?

Abortion is a complex issue. Instead of having another set of laws, abortion should be up to the individuals involved. Both Man and woman. As you can tell I'm am pro-choice and attend a catholic university. It's hard, thank god I'm opinionated.

About 5 minutes after receiving this though, before I had responded, I received the following:

Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 22:49:21 -0500
From: Shane David Slominski (Shane.D.Slominski.1@nd.edu)
Subject: abortion

Fuck you, dumb bitch

How nice. When I responded, asking why he got so hostile, I received this:

Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 14:25:34 -0500
From: Shane Slominski (Shane.D.Slominski.1@nd.edu)
Subject: Re: abortion

Have you ever been fucked, ugly bitch? Leave me alone please.

NOTE: His University does not endorse this type of e-mail - please do not let this e-mail color your opinion on his school. In addition, I was informed that the e-mail actually came from Robert.H.Mowl.1@nd.edu

I'm not saying use abortion as birth control, meaning everytime a woman gets pregnant have an abortion. My feelings are we have the right to choose what we do with our bodies. YOU do not have the right to choose what I can do with my body. Understand? And I don't understand why YOU PRO-LIFERS have to bomb abortion clinics killing innocent people, and shoot down doctors. Your not saving a life there either. Think about it how would you like someone telling you what to do with your life. Also if abortion was illegal do you know how many women would die because they did not have a choice and went to an underground abortion clinic because they were afraid there parents would dis-own them knowing they were pregnant. And yes I have a lot of friends that have been adopted and my very best friend was abused by her adoptive parents!!!!!! Hopefully I can change your views.

In this letter she says that her adoptive friend was abused - is she implying that her friend was better off dead?

I don't often extend myself to dirt-stupid, right-wing, wacko, funda- mentalists (you are witnessing a few of my own, lets say, judgements), but I was feeling particularly generous today. Don't expect additional favors, or the courtesy of further replies.
forest@aracnet.com

OH DARN! I won't get any more mail from Don? ;)

God bless William Jefferson Clinton the beckoning light! And may God in all his infinite glory bestow upon the sainted Hillary her rightful duty and honor of second in command!

And may the paramiltary in you diminish amongst the strong meat of reason and tolerance and the black night which is your soul find peace and Democrat enlightment.

And may this Democrat's prayer insert itself in the maelstrom of confused Rush Limbaugh lockstep with which you confuse independent thought... And so it walks..."
glw@hypercon.com